INDONESIAN SOLUTION UNRAVELS

It’s difficult to believe that Prime Minister Rudd, a man who claims to a complete and unassailable grasp on international diplomacy could be such an unmitigated diplomatic disaster. From his inept and humiliating kowtowing to the murderous dictators in China to his complete lack of comprehension of the intricacies of doing business in Indonesia.

"Officials in Tanjung Pinang were deeply unhappy with the deal struck between Canberra and Jakarta to take the refugees who have been at sea aboard the Australian Customs vessel Oceanic Viking for more than a week."

Did Rudd, the bumbling, over promoted public service buffoon yet again ignore the advice of his advisors? One would have to assume so, as only the most amateur novice would think a handshake deal in Indonesia means anything.

For the West a deal is done on a handshake and its cemented on the signature. For the average Indonesian businessman, the handshake is means to transmit the flu and a contract signature is the time to begin talking how to avoid the details of the contract and squeeze more money. The more the other party has committed the better as it becomes party time.

Now when everyone knows the rules of the game, it works as each party builds in their own safety net. However when one party walks in like a tourist in the seedy side of town, wearing gold chains and Rolex watches then that party is going to get rolled. The final piece of advice, NEVER EVER do business with the Indonesian Government unless you carry your testicular bits in a fire proof safe, the rules are in a constant state of change and the government is the umpire.

Seriously was there anyone on the planet, except the Idiot Rudd who didn’t think the Indonesians would not find a way to strangle the arrangement (as evil as it is) for more cash?

"But after earlier telling reporters Indonesia was not a "dumping ground" for refugees, provincial governor Ismeth Abdullah softened his remarks but queried the detention centre's readiness.
"Who is going to give (the Sri Lankans) their food?" he asked The Australian. "Where is the money going to come from for all their expenses?"

Any resident of Indonesia could translate the above statement for KRUDD into what it really means. You could almost hear the old ABBA hit wafting across the wharf...Money...Money ..Money..It's rich man's world.

Of course, asking someone to account for the over 50million dollars of Australian Taxpayers money already spent will result in the “screen-saver” face.

From here Australia has two choices if they insist on this idiots plan. Firstly, insist that Indonesia honour the deal and immediately cease the flow of funds into Indonesia across the board. Don’t threaten, don’t waffle, just do. Nothing cements an agreement or creates an atmosphere of cooperation faster than an official getting a pain the hip pocket.

The second way, and the one the idiot Rudd will take, cave in to the demands for more cash and gain short term cooperation. Then stand by as the demands become more and more outrageous as Australia becomes more and more committed to this lunacy.

The best way, admit the lunacy and withdraw all support for this insanity and return the illegal immigrants to Australian run, controlled and sponsored detention centres. This option would be a hoot as well as honourable, because you would also get to watch Indonesian Officials falling over themselves to resurrect the original plan as they see their platinum gravy train (boat) escaping their sticky fingers (Problem Mister..No Problem already fixed..It was miscommunication…All good now)

THE INDONESIAN SOLUTION AND LABOR PAINS

LIAR
–noun
A person who tells lies.

Synonyms:
falsifier, perjurer, prevaricator.


The Stump should not be surprised but never the less is disappointed with Australia’s Current Foreign Minister Steven Smith statements on the political news program “The Insiders” this morning. Now everyone would know by now that the Stump considers the current Australian Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd a two- bob bully and the very worst kind of political opportunist who stands for nothing except his own personal advancement. However, Steven Smith has always impressed the Stump as an articulate, extremely intelligent individual which made his comments that he believed (paraphrased) that “Illegal Immigrants would be treated in a humane and civilised fashion within the proposed Indonesian Detention Centres to be run on behalf of the Australian people” even more repugnant.

It beggars belief that an Australian Foreign Minister would not know the conditions of Indonesian places of internment and the low priority placed on human rights and human dignity in the nation. To believe that mindset would change in a Detention Centre funded by Australia but managed by Indonesia makes Smith a unmitigated, immoral Liar or the person of such naive optimism he is not fit to hold a position such importance to Australia’s welfare.

Let there be no misunderstanding, the Stump is a strong supporter of absolute border protection and believes that a major cause of Australia’s current social woes is the blind support for the utopian nonsense that all cultures are equal. Never the less, the Stump fully understands that people will always try to enter Australia both legally and illegally generally as economic refugees. Obviously, these illegal immigrants need to be detained, reviewed and in the vast majority of cases returned to their places of origin. It is not and never was Australia’s role to be the guardian angel of the world.

However, all people need to be treated with respect and dignity. It is not unreasonable for a person to seek a better life for himself and his family. Therefore the process of detention and review should be conducted as quickly as possible in a place/s that provide decent accommodation, health care and security. Even the most brain dead, immoral swine could see that the “Indonesia Solution” would provide none of those basic humane requirements.

Jakartass,posed the question in a previous post comment “Did the Stump think SBY would accept the offer to act as Australia’s nation of choice for detention of Illegal Immigrants” (or words to that effect).

The answer of course, is Absolutely! The Indonesian "powers that be" must be almost wetting themselves with excitement at this manna from Heaven. Not only is the Australian Tax payer going to send literally millions of dollars directly into that unaccountable morass that is Indonesian government but they have provided the Indonesians with an unassailable point of leverage in every future discussion between Australia and Indonesia.

“Hey you Indonesians, about time you took human rights seriously”
“Hey Prime Minister, best you shut the “F” up or we will closed the detention centre and issue boats n maps to Australia”

"Hey you Indonesians, how about doing something about Papua"
"Hey OZ Foreign Minister, best you shut the “F” or we will release some pictures of your so called Indonesian Solution just prior to an election."

Does ANYONE THINK THIS WON’T HAPPEN?

AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY – AUSTRALIA’S CURSE AND THE LEFTS SHAME

The Stump challenges anyone to honestly and with a straight face repeat the KRUDD’S statement that sending Illegal Immigrants to a detention centre in Indonesia is "balanced and humane and fair"

On another note, what’s the truth that Bakie Brothers and their cash cow of choice Bumi are exiting as fast as they can from Australian Company Herald Resources? Could it be that they found the attention of the corporate watchdog a little more than they are used to in Indonesia or just yet another fire sale.

Rudd - Immigrant Smuggler

Mr Rudd told ABC1's 7.30 Report on Thursday the asylum-seekers' treatment would be "balanced and humane and fair" unlike the previous government which "had kids behind razor wire".

The Australian Labor has a history of human rights abuses, who can could forget the Suharto Arse Kissing by that sad little worm Keating or the "look the other way" policy during the invasion of East Timor.

Prime Minister Rudd continues that disgraceful legacy with his Rendition policy of Illegal Immigrants. It is impossible to believe that anyone with a semblance of knowledge about Indonesia would find the below a surprise or unexpected.

This creature and the Labor party's rusted on leftish frauds had the nerve to complain about Howard's Policies..What a bunch of disgraceful frauds.

October 24, 2009
Article from: The Australian

A TOTAL of 78 Sri Lankan asylum-seekers on board an Australian Customs vessel were to be transferred today to an Indonesian detention centre where detainees yesterday claimed they were beaten and robbed by guards, and slept 20 to a room on mattresses on the floor with no airconditioning.

With arms outstretched through the bars of their first-floor dormitory, above a string of razor wire, a group of Afghans who have already spent seven months in the Tanjung Pinang immigration detention centre on the Indonesian island of Bintan said they had been treated like "animals" and pleaded for Australia to help them. The Oceanic Viking, carrying 78 asylum-seekers, including a sick 12-year-old girl, was today expected to arrive near the Australian-funded detention centre. The vessel was diverted to Indonesia after an agreement was thrashed out between Kevin Rudd and Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. Mr Rudd told ABC1's 7.30 Report on Thursday the asylum-seekers' treatment would be "balanced and humane and fair" unlike the previous government which "had kids behind razor wire".

But the detainees at the facility yesterday described a life of brutality instead of the freedom they had dreamed of attaining in Australia. Navad Hashimi, 20, from Kandahar province in Afghanistan, told The Australian of being locked in during the day and suffering night-time beatings.

"Sometimes the immigration people hit some of us during the night," he said.

The beatings are punishment for the latest in a series of escapes from the centre, Sayad Nadyr, 34, from Daykundi Province in Afghanistan, said from the window of his cell.

"There is trouble, one person escape two weeks ago. At night time they come in here and punish us."

Mr Nadyr said their money had been stolen after they were picked up about seven months ago. The group of men, one with his wife, are all from the Hazara minority in Afghanistan.

Indonesia - Australia's Bounty Hunter

The stench grows ever higher on the Rudd’s opportunistic and foul plan to hand over illegal immigrants to Indonesia. It was reported today on ABC TV that the RUDD Government is offering tens of millions of dollars to Indonesia to set up detention centres for the housing and processing of illegal immigrants trying to make their way to Australia. Additionally, it would appear that Rudd is also offering a per diem (the term was bounty in old west) amount for every immigrant held.

Now we all recall Rudd referring to that those in dollars and profit as a result of human trafficking as “the vilest people on earth”. Perhaps someone can explain the difference in what RUDD and SBY are about to do. Dollars for bodies sounds like human trafficking to the Stump. It would certainly confirm the Stump opinion of the Rudd but we did (and do) have a higher opinion of the Indonesian President (SBY). One can only hope SBY strings the vile little creature along for awhile and then sends him and his bounty packing. Although unfortunately money talks loud in Indonesia.

Is the chattering left so morally blind they cannot see that the every establishment of Australian Funded detention centres is condemning people to a situation far far worse than anything the previous government had in place. For goodness sake, Indonesia record on Human Rights remains abysmal for its own people particularly when there is a dollar involved. Corruption remains one of the very few places in which Indonesia figures in the world top ten and to think this poorly conceived (although typical) plan can end in anything but human misery and pain is absolutely disgraceful.

Rudd and the Left in Australia you are an embarrassment to us all.
The only question that remains is what is the bounty on an illegal immigrant these days? I guess we should be grateful it hasn’t got to the stage of proof required for the old Dingo Bounty.

On another issue and continuing the WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY theme.
We all remember the magnificent sanctimonious morons screaming death and destruction over some supposedly Islam insulting cartoons in some minor new paper in some middling European country about the size of small cattle station. We would also recall the murder of some poor bugger due to outrage at film that didn’t pay craven regard to outmoded religious dogma.

The Stump is just wondering WHERE THE HELL ARE all the morons who were demanding respect for “their” religion when yet another mindless mob (complete with various elected officials) descended upon the site of Hindu Temple in Malaysia carting a bloody cow's head (Cows having significant religious symbolism in the Hindu Faith). Not content with simply parading the Cows head around, the myopic ones then proceeded to spit on it and play “head” soccer. The only positive message that came out of this affair was even with all the mistreatment, after examination and not all that surprisingly, the cow’s head was found to have a higher point IQ point score than the collective IQ of the entire mob. The downside..the myopic ones are believed to have the ability to reproduce.

Rudd for Refugees.. A fair deal

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The Stump refuses to use the term Refugee as the very name implies people fleeing from immediate persecution in their own country to a place of safety. The very fact these illegal immigrants have paid considerable sums of money to third parties and invariably transited numerous “safe” countries makes a mockery of the term Refugee.
As of the weekend the current excuse for a Prime Minister Little Kranky Kevin announced his plan to request Indonesia house and detain the immigrants on Indonesian soil in places of detention (read leaky rotten wooden boats) funded by the Australian Taxpayer. The Indonesian Government must have showed unusual discretion by not laughing out loud as they signed the agreement and took the money never to be seen again.

So where are they??? The repugnant Left that is, not the Illegal immigrants.
Where are all the screaming latte left hordes that condemned John Howard and his Pacific Solution as a cruel solution to the illegal immigrant issue? Where are the screaming hordes that denounced Howard’s plan to house these Illegal Immigrants in Australian run and sponsored offshore camps. Where are the idiots who declared Howards policy as inhumane and lacking compassion? Are they seriously thinking that asking and trusting Indonesia to run these “camps” will be more humane?

It’s hard to believe that the current Australian Government could be so witless! After all the beating of the chests and hand wringing about conditions in the detention centres under the Howard Government, does anyone really believe that a detention centre under Indonesian control will provide better conditions, healthcare resources? Does anyone seriously believe the money the Australian Taxpayer rams into this plan concocted on the fly will actually end up being utilised as it should and not building another mansion in sunny Pundok Indah?

Surely for an example of Indonesia’s treatment of homeless people, even the most naive traveller would know you only have to glance under the toll road bridges in Jakarta? Or if you wish see the way justice and compassion is applied to those people with no voice in Indonesia just look at the despair of mudflow victims just outside of SURABUYA.

Even the most clueless diplomat must know that Indonesian Foreign policy and agreements are (to the eternal frustration of career diplomats in Indonesia) subject to the whims of neo-nationalist and worldly ignorant Political trough feeders. Does it really take a genius to recognise that it is only a matter of months before its Australia’s turn to be Indonesia’s public enemy number one again.

The “us against the rest foreign policy” of Indonesia is a recognised cyclic routine to avoid addressing the real issues at home in Indonesia. Any one with more than a year’s memory recall remembers the “EVIL Singaporeans are stealing our sand, harbouring our criminals” ..yawn yawn...”The Evil Malaysians are stealing our songs..clothes” (always a hoot when Indonesia cries foul over intellectual property as anyone who has tried to buy original software in Indonesia will testify)..”The Evil Europeans are racist because our planes fall out of the sky”..”The Evil Australians are trying to steal Papua”... because that’s just what Australia needs another failed state to prop up with Tax payer funds.

What do the clueless ones think will happen to the agreement once its Australia’s turn to be king of the shit people again. Well at least we can be sure all the money would be returned..........................

This Australian KRUDD Government could well go down as the most inept government both domestically and internationally in Australia’s History. Their complete inability to separate ideological dream time from real politic is simply breathtaking in the long term damage it is doing to Australia. From decades of debt to ward off a non-existed economic depression (oh and spare us the stimulus plan that allowed every Australian to buy a Chinese Plasma TV saved the nation) to the bend over backward knee tremblers with China and Indonesia. Let alone the Economy destroying Carbon Tax that will not make the slightest difference to world pollution levels but will put thousands out of work. Yup Australians can be stupid!