Monday, January 12, 2009

Israel and Dogs

The Stump doesn't believe there will ever be any solution to the problems in the Middle East. Too many religious lunatics in direct communication with GOD. Which is never ever a good thing, too little education and too many murderous religious thugs to profit by the continuing pain of others

The Stump is bemused but not surprised at the bizarre support for HAMAS (as opposed to the Palestine people)from the Muslim World. In it's simplest form...

If you are going to throw rocks at a big nasty dog, who you know is going chase you into your own back yard and bite a bloody great chunk of flesh out of your arse. Then if you care just a little bit about your women and children (rather than as human stakes in a poker game) you would make sure they are safe and out of reach of the dog BEFORE you poke the beast.

No matter what you may think of Israel, they are a very predictable nation and for HAMAS to claim no responsibility for the death and mayhem after poking the eye of the dog is a global bloody wank!

This weeks bloody brain perversion....

How come the miserable excuses for humanity below are not getting equal protest time with Israel???

Back once again to the Useful Idiots and their adherance to the Some Muslims are more equal than others doctrine.

December 29, 2008

Nashanuddin Khan/Associated Press

KABUL, Afghanistan --

A day after a suicide bomber killed at least 16 people, including 13 schoolchildren, in a region bordering Pakistan, a new rash of bombings shook different areas of Afghanistan on Monday, killing two civilians north of Kabul and two more in Kandahar Province.

Men inspected the wreckage of a suicide car bomb on Sunday in Khost Province, Afghanistan. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bomb, which was detonated next to a school.

Several Afghan provinces have been centers of violence.

The explosion on Sunday detonated outside a local government compound in Khost Province and wounded 53, local government officials and coalition forces said. The bombing, near the border with Pakistan, occurred next to a school, and many children were among the wounded.

The Taliban fighters claimed responsibility for the attack.

Coalition forces provided a video showing about 15 children walking on the street as they were engulfed by a ball of fire. Mark Larter, a spokesman for the coalition forces, said the death toll also was based on reports of troops at the scene. Two police officers were among the dead.

8 comments:

Silverlines said...

If you are going to throw rocks at a big nasty dog, who you know is going chase you into your own back yard and bite a bloody great chunk of flesh out of your arse. Then if you care just a little bit about your women and children (rather than as human stakes in a poker game) you would make sure they are safe and out of reach of the dog BEFORE you poke the beast.

I am not sure who you referred to as the big nasty dog, but I would guess it's the Israelian. Now if you say that HAMAS should make sure they are safe and out of reach of the dog BEFORE they poke the beast like .. errr .. Hello? They have been besieged since June 2007, that is 18 months at least, there has been no access of anything getting IN nor OUT, unless some very, very, very exceptional basis. Even after the invasion, they only let the wives and children of the Palestinian who hold foreign passport to get out of Gaza.
Now tell me, if you are locked from outside in your house with your wife and kids without any food, assistance, whatsoever, what you're gonna do to survive and tell them to open the goddamn door, dear?

But I do agree one thing with you, this should have nothing to do with religion the way some people seeing it.

And oh, Happy New Year?
And what's this with your continuous sentiment over Muslims, Stump? Care explaining?

oigal said...

Hey Silver,

You guess right, Israel is the big nasty in this story, very predictable and very nasty.

"that is 18 months at least, there has been no access of anything getting IN nor OUT" That's the point then really, if you are provoke the dog (justified or not) then your women and children are going to get hurt because there is no way to keep them safe. Its not nice, its not fair and its not right but it is the reality and therefore whoever provokes the dog under those circumstances must accept some responsibility..

Muslims.. I guess it could be seen a bit of a fixation but hey whats in the news? Honestly, its not the religion I am just confused about people who to introduce the reglion issue into various disputes but then become very selective about when to apply the outrage.

You take me to task but you never addressed the final section of my post and the schoolgirls murdered..I don't remember the outrage then..did I miss it?

Dafur? Did I miss it? Hey if I am wrong and have it all arse about ..help me out after all only a dumb stump?

How much of the Middle Eastern Government Aid pledges actually came to fruition over the past five years?


If it make you feel nicer towards the stump, I am going to write a post soon how an ol right wing stump has been betrayed by a BUSH covered with thugs..

Happy New Year to you as well..

Silverlines said...

Oh the last one was not addressed maybe because the first part ignited me well before I moved on to that part, and do accept my apology :P

Oh no, I am not in any way in agreement with any of those attacks, neither I agree that Hamas is similar to Taliban.

But I most likely would do the same with what Hamas is doing if I am locked inside without any supply of anything and if the person who locked me are lacking the ability to listen.

oigal said...

Hi S,
"the last one was not addressed maybe because the first part ignited me well before I moved on to that part"

Then may I suggest you have missed the whole point of the post (and the same time making the point of the post for me).

No one said Taliban was the same HAMAS (Not in this post anyway) What was being compared was the status and concern for the victims.. Point still stands.. where is the outrage for the schoolgirls, the burning schools and/or Dafur Muslims..What is the difference..are they different kinds of Muslim? or is just the useful idiots have not been told who to be selectively outraged at??
Until that key point can be rationalised then I am afraid I must stick my post.

"But I most likely would do the same with what Hamas is doing if I am locked inside without any supply of anything and if the person who locked me are lacking the ability to listen"

Mmm.. So you would blow up women and children with suicide bombs and rockets??? One assumes therefore you would fully expect the violence would returned 1000fold and your own children and relatives would he hurt or killed (and you would be be prepared for that?) Sorry I just cannot understand that kind of rationalisation.

You seriously think this would pave the way to peace?

Come on Silver..these idiots have been playing the game of violence for decades... same routine, same results..time for different approach..

Maybe if their "brothers" spent less time building islands in the ocean and $7000 night hotels..but hey that would mean stop blaming the west for all the worlds woes...no fun in that.

Silverlines said...

No, I would not blow women and children with suicide bombs, and that twisted words are not what exactly is happening there.

Well, there will not be too many women and children casualties had the border is not closed and they are allowed to seek refuge outside Gaza. And who would have thought (pun intended!) that Israel will not respect the convention that they ratified on children?

oigal said...

Silver, I agree with you that innocents are suffering...I don't agree with the selective outrage and the pretence that HAMAS is just a bunch of innocent farmers and shopkeepers..

Israel and UN Conventions..you are kidding right?..Does not HAMAS call for the outright destruction of Israel and states there can be no peace until Israel and every Jew has been pushed into the sea?
What UN convention does that fall under?

Don't think I twisted words..

"But I most likely would do the same with what Hamas is doing"

I know that probably not wat you meant but you said it not me!

At least Israel goes through the motions of declaring who is a non combatant, and goes to extraordinary links to protect its citizens. HAMAS considers civilian deaths acceptable means to an end, in fact considers its civilian population a useful cloak for its operations.

Again tho in your emotion you are missing the point..its the selective outrage and pretend shock at a very predictable outcome..meanwhile..

Where is your outrage at the kids who are dying of starvation in Kupang? Yet another overloaded ferry sinking? The pembantu tortured half to death in Saudi Arabia? The 11000 people homeless and government inaction there?

Those are issues if the same amount of people started protesting might actually bring about change instead of this self righteous wank by the Islamic version of Lenin's useful idiots

Silverlines said...

Hold the horses, Oigal.

Twisted words as in, when I said that I most likely would do what Hamas was doing, should not constitute as "blowing women and chlildren with suicide bombs", does it?
Nonetheless, if I am locked in a room without supply with my kids suffering inside, and the person who locked me from outside just would not listen, what would be your suggestion?

And no, the fact that I did not comment here on the issues you listed which happen in my country does not mean I am not outraged with that fact.

I just don't call people names nor their religion.

oigal said...

Sorry Silver.. I have acknowledged that is not what you meant but thats what you said...What is (rightly or wrongly) HAMAS method of aggression or defence? (depending on your point of view) and you said "But I most likely would do the same with what Hamas is doing " Ok, but I concede that you did not mean that literally..ok.

Ok dispite the fact you have consisantly refused to address any of the questions I have posed to you..I will at least attempt to answer yours..

"if I am locked in a room without supply with my kids suffering inside, and the person who locked me from outside just would not listen, what would be your suggestion?" Well the one thing I would not want and do all I got to prevent is allow some arsehole, who cares not one squat about my family to fire rockets at a Beast who I know is going to come back and bomb the shit out of my family.

"I just don't call people names nor their religion." Nor do I, but again its not me who linked this to religion (however lets not kid ourselves) HAMAS refers to the Jews and Crusader nations?? PKS rallies? Calls for Jihad?
And you tell me I am bringing religion into it..please!

You and I both know that these people live on loony fringe of religion but it becomes tiresome every time someone says "but that ain't my religion" sorry they loonies have claimed it and perhaps its time the rationals claimed it back or we are all in big trouble (btw..It equally applies to the religious loony right in the USA and OZ..).

Should we talk about about what the FPI and MUI have been saying and still try and pretend there is no religious conection? I grant you there should not be, this is purely a land dispute but it has been turned into a religious dispute here and other places and as usual the so-called moderates are deafing in their silence.


You are still missing the point tho, you seem to think I support the bloodshed..when what I am asking is why these victims are more equal than others?